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Resources

In this section I have shared downloadable PDF manuals for the Bafang and Tongsheng mid-drive motors, including user manuals for the Bafang 850c / DP-C18 / C965 displays and the Tongsheng VLCD5 / VLCD6 / XH-18 displays.

There are also installation guides available for both motor kits.

 

 

 

 

36 thoughts on “Resources

  • April 18, 2020 at 9:14 am
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    Yes, thanks, Tony.
    Ninh.

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    • April 18, 2020 at 11:29 am
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      Let me know how things go👍

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  • April 17, 2020 at 12:34 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    instead of using the USB cable, one can still connect the brown and orange wire together, although with some risk. Is the understanding correct? (English is not my mother tongue, by the way).
    Would the following be possible instead: The display C961 is connected to 2 cables. I call them the input (connecting to the hand control) and the output (connecting to the motor). Is it possible to just connect these 2 cables directly together, cutting out the display? I know this is a naive idea, but I hope to still use speed changer.
    Thank you.
    Ninh.

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    • April 17, 2020 at 5:44 pm
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      Hi Ninh,
      I understand what you want to achieve, basically bypass the need for a display altogether but keep the + – keypad to control the pedal assist?

      This isn’t something I have ever tried, so I can’t say whether this would work or not. It sounds a bit risky in my opinion. I don’t think the keypad would work without the display, although I may be wrong. I’ve had a look on some of the forums and I can’t find any information on anyone trying this.

      It might be worth waiting for the small display to arrive, just to be on the safe side.

      Regards,
      Tony

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      • May 24, 2020 at 9:28 pm
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        Hello I have a FzlX roadster and upgraded display to dps18 and have a round pin pug going into triangle do I have to eliminate plug and splice wires

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        • May 25, 2020 at 9:34 am
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          Hi,

          It’s not something I’ve tried with the DP-C18 display. I would check the number of pins on the display plug and wiring loom plug correspond. You will need to make sure the colour coding (on the loom) corresponds as well. If everything matches up, I would solder and heat shrink each wire individually.

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  • April 16, 2020 at 10:54 am
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    Many thanks, Tony, for the useful link. I will read it carefully and try later. Stay healthy and best regards. Ninh.

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  • April 15, 2020 at 2:37 pm
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    Many thanks, Tony. What is the USB lead? Is it the cable? I don’t have it. Considering the current situation with the trade flow bring slowed down, ordering from overseas might not be a good option. Ninh.

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    • April 15, 2020 at 6:22 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      Yes, it is the USB programming lead. You will need it to set the default PAS or throttle settings. You could just cut the existing display cable and solder the orange and brown wires together, but you will be stuck in whatever default PAS level is on the firmware settings. Here is a link on how to do the modification.

      All the best,
      Tony

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  • April 14, 2020 at 3:18 pm
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    Thank you, Tony. I thought that my earlier message regarding the tyre size went missing because I didnt see it for a few days. I have in the meantime ordered the SW102 Minidisplay but have not recieved it since quite some time, since Feb 14. I am thinking to skip it, ie connecting the controller directly to the motor? I dont need to read the information (time, speed, distance, etc.) anymore. Is that possible by re-wiring? Thanks again in advance for yor advice. Ninh.

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    • April 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      You can just plug in the USB programming lead and use the on/off switch on the battery. You will need to set ‘designated assist’ to maximum (using the Bafang programming software) and make sure you cover the USB end of the lead and cable tie it in place. I have tried this myself before and it should do the trick.

      Regards,
      Tony

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  • April 2, 2020 at 12:17 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    I am familiar with what a 26″ tyre is. What would a 700C bike be? It would be bigger, I guess. Is it a lot bigger, or not.
    Thanks and kind regards,
    Ninh.

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    • April 2, 2020 at 10:58 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      A 700c tyre is 28″ in diameter – this wheel size is usually found on hybrid or road bikes. I hope this helps.

      Kind regards,
      Tony

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  • March 7, 2020 at 3:47 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    I ordered the BBS01 from Changzhou Steamoon Intelligent Technology Co., Ltd.
    that ordered the battery and charger from other manufacturer. Steamoon did a good job, by the way, packaging and shopping. The battery had been also working well, except that it was not water proof at all. But now it is.
    Many thanks and kind regards.
    Ninh.

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    • March 7, 2020 at 11:12 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      Glad everything is now working and your battery has been waterproofed.

      All the best,
      Tony

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  • March 6, 2020 at 11:51 am
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    Dear Tony

    here is what has happened. I also believed that the battery and the motor would be the post protected parts of the bike. So I sprayed a bit, just a bit. But we had to dissamble the battery and found out that there is not protection at all. The water can easily go inside the battery, and the cells were wrapped with a sheet of paper. All was wet and the paper was “melted” – this is what my friend who fixed it told me. Now, the battery is fully charged again and all is in order, I hope.

    Maybe this should also be a lesson for others who love ebikes.

    Thank you very much, Tony.

    Ninh.

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    • March 6, 2020 at 2:59 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      Thanks for the update. What supplier did you use for the battery? In my experience the standard bottle batteries are water resistant (from rain) but I’m aware there can be variations in assembly quality between suppliers.

      Hopefully your battery won’t give you any more troubles.

      All the best,
      Tony

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  • March 2, 2020 at 2:50 am
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    Many thanks, tony, for the hints. I will check tonight and let you know. Kind regards. Ninh.

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  • March 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    I sent you another message using mu smartphone. I dont know it has gone. I apologize if this is a repetition. I have a bottle type Samsung Lithium battery, 36V, 8.8mhA. I have used the charger / charged the battery only 3 times up to now. All was great. But today is very strange. I will ask a friend if he can check the voltage for me, but I dout that it is zero now. There is a button on the battery. If you press it there will be a lights on it (5 lights mean 100% charged, 1 light = 20%, maybe). But, now there is no light on it, sadly.
    Kind regards,
    Ninh.

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    • March 1, 2020 at 4:51 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      Those types of battery are usually fairly water resistant. I converted a bike for a customer using a 36v10.4ah bottle battery and he used it daily for 2 years in wet British weather without issues. The voltage should never reach zero on an ebike battery as there is a low-voltage cut-off point (usually around 29V) so your friend should get a reading off the multimeter.

      It might be worth checking the on/off switch as well, if you are not getting any LED lights on the battery panel itself, it sounds like there is no power at all. If water did get into the battery it’s possible the BMS has shut down.

      Keep me posted on how things go.

      Regards,
      Tony

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  • March 1, 2020 at 12:05 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    Please come to rescue. I made a big mistake today. Believing that the battery is very well protected, I sprayed water to clean the bike without protecting the battery. 3 hours later I realized that the battery level was very low although it was full before. The battery was not hot though. Now I am recharging again but it looks like it is not charging any more. The indicator light is green. I think the problem was that I did not recharge when the battery level was still above zero.
    Is there anyway to solve the problem? Many thanks in advance.
    Kind regards.
    Ninh.

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    • March 1, 2020 at 12:15 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      What type of battery do you have? It would be worth removing the battery and allowing it to dry out (use paper towel to dry the contacts if wet). Most of the batteries are water resistant. It would also be worth checking the charger is working correctly. Some times if a charger goes straight to green it means you have a faulty charger.

      Let me know how things go.If you have access to a multimeter it would be worth checking the battery output voltage (it should be 42v oin a 36v battery).

      Regards,
      Tony

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    • February 11, 2020 at 10:20 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      I just had a look at the throttle in the link and I couldn’t see what connector it was using. The throttle needs to have a 3-pin female higo connector here is a link to a Bafang BBS compatible throttle from Aliexpress. I have used these particular throttles before and they work fine.

      All the best,
      Tony

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  • February 3, 2020 at 4:25 am
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    Many thanks, Tony.
    Ninh.

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    • February 3, 2020 at 7:30 am
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      You’re welcome.

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  • February 2, 2020 at 2:09 pm
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    Dear Tony,

    while instlaiing the BBS01 motor a few months ago i realized that there were 2 (or 4) extra wires. It comes to my mind today that they might be used for lights. Would that be possible, and if yes, what type of lights (voltage, ampere) would be the right ones?

    Many thanks,

    Ninh.

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    • February 2, 2020 at 7:04 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      Yes, that’s correct they are for lights that can be switched on and off using the display keypad. Here is a link for a popular headlight on Aliexpress (with good reviews), and here is a link for a compatible tail light.

      Kind regards,
      Tony

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  • January 31, 2020 at 6:39 pm
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    Dear Tony,
    I have installed the BBS01 a few months ago. So far so good. But I have damaged the C961 display. It is still usable, but I like to replace it. Is there any other compatible display that is more compact?
    Many thanks in advance.
    Ninh.

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    • January 31, 2020 at 7:25 pm
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      Hi Ninh,

      The SW102 mini display is Bafang compatible. I have installed this display myself and it works well, it is also small and discreet. Here is a link to a supplier I have used before on Aliexpress.

      Kind regards,
      Tony

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      • February 1, 2020 at 6:08 am
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        Dear Tony,
        Many, many thanks for your always prompt, precise and useful advice.
        Kind regards from Hanoi, Vietnam.
        Ninh.

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        • February 1, 2020 at 10:13 am
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          You’re welcome!

          All the best,
          Tony

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  • November 23, 2019 at 6:38 pm
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    I bought my cyclamatic one year ago and my battery will not stay on for over 2 mile and I believe I have a 2 year warranty can you please get back to me and let me know if I can get another battery if I have to I’ll buy one but I’m pretty sure it’s still under warranty s

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    • November 23, 2019 at 11:06 pm
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      It depends where you purchased it from. If it was Amazon or eBay, I would contact the seller first to see if they will honour the warranty. If you don’t get anywhere with the seller, it might be worth opening up a dispute with PayPal or your card company.

      The battery should have lasted well beyond a year. Those batteries are usually good for around 500 charging cycles.

      If yours has the newer style battery, you can get a slightly more powerful one from Amazon or eBay. Here is the link to one from Amazon with good customer feedback. You will need the 36v 10ah battery. You will need to check the size against the one you have – 365mm long x 90mm high x 90mm wide.

      If you need any more help, let me know.

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  • June 5, 2019 at 5:10 am
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    Thank you for making these available. Sometimes good online support for motors, or anything else for that matter, is really difficult to come by.

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    • June 5, 2019 at 8:00 am
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      Hi Stan,

      Thank you for your positive comments. I’ve just checked out your website and you have some good value e-bikes on there.

      Wishing you all the success in your business!

      All the best,
      Tony

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